Sound capture from Real Audio

Sound capture from Real Audio

Post by Bob Cotte » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 02:15:57


From time to time I would like to capture a clip from a radio programme
that has an audio vault. I hear the programme on the radio in the
evening, then go to the computer to listen to it again from their
archives.

Is there a way (other than having an analog recording device on while
the clip is playing back) to capture the sound as a file in the
computer.

I have an iMac running 10.2.

Cheers... Bob

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Sound capture from Real Audio

Post by Michael Vi » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 03:11:54

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My guess is that you could write a program to capture that audio stream,
but it would be a violation of copyright to do so. But you knew that
already, right?

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Post by Bob Cotte » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 03:24:14

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I wish I could write a program to do that, but my programming skills go
back to the days of Basic, Fortran, Logo and Pascal <g>.

As for copyright, not sure that it is if the copy from the radio stream
is for my own personal use. Canadian copyright laws have changed
recently to allow for recording for personal use, but not for recopying
for others.

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Post by sbt » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 03:26:37

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Audio Hijack will record the stream.

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Post by Hugh Wol » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 03:36:25


I doubt very much it's a violation of copyright, any more than it
would be to record the radio program from the original broadcast or
for that matter to record a tv show with a vcr.

In any case, the folks at Rogue Amoeba sell two pieces of software
designed specifically to capture audio output from other applications,
including RealPlayer: Audio Hijack and Audio Hijack Pro. Don't let
the names full you -- both are commercial. Pro has more functionality
in it though. For instance I believe it can encode to mp3 on the fly,
whereas the standard package only records aiff (big files: 10+ MB per
minute).

I own Audio Hijack, which worked very well in 10.2 but has been a
little flakey in 10.3, crashing twice on me since I upgraded. Maybe
whatever was causing that problem has been fixed in the new release
that came out yesterday, I don't know. I've found that the 'support'
at Rogue Amoeba matches their motto: good software with a bad
attitude.

It's worth mentioning that the OP could also use Audio Hijack (Pro) to
record the shows directly to disk himself, using its timer recording
feature. All he has to do is connect a tuner to his Mac. That way he
could skip the archived stream altogether. Recording from an external
tuner is exactly why I bought Audio Hijack.

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Post by Davou » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 03:36:28

Bob Cotter:

Michael Vilain:

No, capturing such a stream does not violate anyone's copyright. Fair
use obtains here -- the same principle that makes it legal to videotape
a TV show and to rip a CD into iTunes for one's own use.

And the way to do it is with Audio Hijack. That is an unfortunate name,
as it makes a perfectly legal process seem illegitimate.

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Post by Davou » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 03:41:08

Bob Cotter:

Michael Vilain:

Davoud:

*****

I forgot to mention that the source of all knowledge of Mac software is
at Versiontracker < http://www.yqcomputer.com/ ;.
Do a search for "record audio," e.g., and Audio Hijack is prominently
displayed in the results.

Davoud

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Sound capture from Real Audio

Post by Michael Vi » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 04:25:08

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When I wanted to hear a prior program of FRESH AIRE, the information on
that program wasn't on my local station's web site. Instead it's on the
program's own web site because they own the copyrights to the content.
Same for the streaming audio content.

IANAL, but if it _is_ a copyright issue, I'll bet it's because it's not
the radio broadcast that you're recording (that's still under FAIR USE)
but rather a digital stream that you're capturing. There was
considerable uproar in the news about recording companies wanting fees
for stuff played over digital radio streams over the Internet somewhat
similar to the audio being broadcast. It force a lot of sites off the
air. Now those that survive do so by broadcasting pirated stuff from
non-US sites or stuff that's no copyrighted (MAGNATUNE.COM, di.fm).

You may be allowed do download MP3s in Canada, but can you intercept
audio and video? I'd check. "Ignorance of the law is no excuse."

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Post by Wayne C. M » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 04:53:47

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Audio Hijack. Search for it on www.VersionTracker.com.
 
 
 

Sound capture from Real Audio

Post by Hugh Wol » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 05:02:37


That would mean that you could legally use Audio Hijack to record the
broadcast program directly to your drive (in excellent quality), but
you couldn't use it to capture a RealAudio stream of a degraded
encoding of exactly the same program to the same drive.

I'm not saying you're wrong; the law is less consistent than lawyers
like to pretend. But it's usually more consistent than _this_.

If it is illegal to record the stream, the workaround is obvious:
record the broadcast directly. It will sound better anyway.
 
 
 

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Post by taodav » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 05:19:20

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Don't forget WireTap---it's a freebie, and simple to use:

http://www.yqcomputer.com/


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Post by Bob Cotte » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 07:00:57

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Thanks to those who responded for the various suggestions and the
interesting observations on copyright. I downloaded Audio Hyjack and it
worked fine for this application.

Happy New Year ... bob

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Post by Emily Jack » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 19:45:12


Does this actually *work* for anybody? When I tried it (under Jaguar), my
Mac would no longer start up (it installed some .kext files in the OS X
System folder). To get OS X working again, I had to boot from my OS 9 CD
and remove WireTap's files manually. :-\

Emily

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Post by Dave » Fri, 02 Jan 2004 01:59:57

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 2:45:12 -0800, Emily Jackson wrote
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I seem to remember a similar attempt with similar results under OS X
10.2.somethingorother.
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Sound capture from Real Audio

Post by Bob Bal » Fri, 02 Jan 2004 04:04:59

Try Audio Hijack, in lite and pro versions, from http://www.yqcomputer.com/

Works for me

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