Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by joebe » Sat, 07 Feb 2004 09:25:57


I have yet to be able to burn an audio CD on my new Powerbook. Using
Disk Utilility only creates a data CD that won't play... and I-Tunes
isn't doing it either. I have my preferences in I-Tunes set to rip the
files off an audio CD as an AIF file and to burn as an audio file.

But when I burn the copy, it will not play on a regular CD player,
only on my Powerbook.

What am I doing wrong?

I've wasted ten CDs already trying to figure this out.

By the way, I am a radio producer and the CDs I am trying to copy of
of my own radio shows.

Thanks in advance,

Joe
 
 
 

Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by P M Evan » Sat, 07 Feb 2004 10:06:48

Buy a copy of Toast. It worth the money, just for the ease and
convenience.

In article < XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, Joe

 
 
 

Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by matt » Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:01:29


You say "burn as an audio file". Just what does that mean? There are
three choices in the iTunes preferences, and none of them is "audio
file". If you mean "Audio CD", then fine, that's the right preference.
If you've burned 10 CDs and they are indeed audio CDs, but will not play
on a regular CD player, then there are two possibilities: you're using a
shitty brand of CD blanks, or your regular CD player is old and doesn't
read CDRs. (Or both.) Remember, a CDR is not a "real" CD such as a CD
player expects; it merely simulates the effect, not all that well. So
you need top-notch media and a forgiving player. m.


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Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by nospa » Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:55:30

In article <1g8p5yi.15o0ozb1ugdk1sN% XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, matt neuburg




thats not entirely true; most recent players can play crappy media just
fine. try a different manufacturer of cds but i suspect that isn't the
problem. it may have trouble, however, with cd-rw discs. if the player
was made within roughly five years or so, it will probably handle cd-rw
media.

as matt says, itunes can burn more than just an 'audio cd.' an mp3 cd,
for instance, is basically just a data cd with a bunch of mp3 files on
it.

for a regular audio cd player to play the cd, it has to be a standard
audio cd, not data cd. a few recent cd players can handle mp3 cds in
addition to standard audio cds.

another issue is itunes burns in track-at-once mode, and some players
can't handle that format. the 'correct' format is disk at once mode,
which toast can do.

if yo are doing a lot of audio cd burning, you really want toast&jam.
jam is designed for audio cd burning and has a lot of features
(crossfades, variable gap length, index marks, etc.) for audio cd
mastering.
 
 
 

Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by Harald Han » Sat, 07 Feb 2004 17:39:24

+ XXXX@XXXXX.COM (matt neuburg):

| [...] or your regular CD player is old and doesn't read CDRs.

I have a CD player at home that I bought in 1986. It reads CDRs just
fine. But maybe that was made before designers of CD players started
cutting costs in a serious way.

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than thinking does: but it deprives us of whatever chance there is
of getting closer to the truth. -- C.P. Snow
 
 
 

Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by joebevgree » Sun, 08 Feb 2004 05:39:03


Yes. I have it set to burn as an "audio CD".


I am using Fujifilm CD-R audio disks and Memorex Music CD-R disks.

Not "shitty" to use your vernacular. I am using them to burn CDs on my
old Windows XP PC and they work there just fine.


The ones burned on my PC, using the same disks play fine. The ones
burned on my new Powerbook do not play on any CD player, old or new. I
also used these same CDs to mkae CD dubs on my TEAC RW-D200 CD
recorder, and those play on all my various CD players too. Only when I
try t o burn them on this Powerbook do they not play.

I am trying to make CDs of my radio series to send to radio sations
who will be airing it. Each CD should have two 30 minutes tracks on
it. On the Powerbook, a said-CD copy will show that it has two AIF
files and I can play them in I-Tunes. But that same CD copy when
placed into a CD player of any kind (bookbox, consol, Walkman, etc.)
lists only one file and does not play.


Thanks, m. But I am a 26-year veteran radio producer with both
professional and home equipment and am very well aware of all that.

Any suggestions what I do next?

Joe
 
 
 

Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by matt » Sun, 08 Feb 2004 07:38:28


Well, one explanation, perfectly possible, if you really are burning an
Audio CD (which is not entirely clear to me even now, since you talk
about "aif files" rather than "tracks"), would be that there is
something wrong with your PowerBook. I have a friend who bought an iBook
and right out of the box it couldn't burn audio CDs; it had to be sent
in for repairs. (And now, a year or two later, it once again can't burn
audio CDs.) So, these things do happen. So maybe you should have this
looked at. In the meantime you don't have any problem, since as you say
you can burn fine on a different computer. m.



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Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by deaf_nul » Sun, 08 Feb 2004 09:54:19


Audio CDs contain tracks, not files.
Audio CDs have no file system on them.

When an Audio CD is inserted in a Mac OS X or Windows computer, the
Finder (Explorer) will disply several *.aiff (*.wav) files. These are
not real AIFF/WAV files but placeholders so that the users can easily
access the tracks via the Finder's / (Explorer's) interface.

You CD players therefore display one track, not one file. This can have
several reasons:

- You burnt a data CD with one track which contains 2 audio files
- You burnt a real audio CD but the CD player(s) can only read one
of the tracks

When You insert the CD in Your Powerbook, does the finder display "Audio
CD" as the discs name? If so, it its probably an audio CD.
To make sure it is an Audio CD select the CD icon, then hit Cmd-I to get
the item's info window, open the "General" section and look up what's
displayed in the "Format:" line.

What does happen if You insert the burnt CD in Your Windows computer?
Does it show *.wav files or AIFF files?
If AIFF, You most probably burnt a data CD.


Gerhard
 
 
 

Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by joebevgree » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 11:17:25


>> What does happen if You insert the burnt CD in Your Windows computer? >> Does it show *.wav files or AIFF files? >> If AIFF, You most probably burnt a data CD.

Sorry that I can't answer these questions since I threw out the CDs in
question already.

Instead, I bought a copy of Toast, as was suggested by one of the
posters and it works great. I can now copy my audio CDs with a
problem. Much easier to use them trying to do it with I-Tunes.

Thanks for all your help.

Joe
 
 
 

Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by ronhc7 » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 12:23:53


You may try Super Mp3 Recorder at http://www.yqcomputer.com/ . See
how it can help you.
 
 
 

Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by Harald Han » Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:40:51

+ XXXX@XXXXX.COM (Gerhard Torges, geb. Hscher):

| Audio CDs contain tracks, not files.
| Audio CDs have no file system on them.

Actually they may, though it is true that they usually don't (and
won't in the context of your post). As far as understand, each track
on the CD may be an audio track or a data track. The latter kind will
contain a filesystem. I have such a CD at home. If I remember
correctly (it's been a while since I looked), it's a CD with Il
Giardino Armonico which has some tourist information on Genoa (?) on
it. The music plays fine on my CD player, which does not try to play
the data track as music. But when I pop it into my Mac, the tourist
info appears on my desktop. The idea is great, though in this case I
find the music a lot more interesting.

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than thinking does: but it deprives us of whatever chance there is
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Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by Bill Leepe » Tue, 10 Feb 2004 01:06:29


>> >>>What does happen if You insert the burnt CD in Your Windows computer? >>>Does it show *.wav files or AIFF files? >>>If AIFF, You most probably burnt a data CD. >> >> >> Sorry that I can't answer these questions since I threw out the CDs in >> question already. >> >> Instead, I bought a copy of Toast, as was suggested by one of the >> posters and it works great. I can now copy my audio CDs with a >> problem. Much easier to use them trying to do it with I-Tunes. >> >> Thanks for all your help. >> >> Joe

Also, a lot depends on how old the CD player is. I burned an audio CD
with iTunes that played fine on two players in my house but would not
work on the third. The last one was about three years old I think. The
CD played just fine on the new one my daughter got for Christmas.

Bill
 
 
 

Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by deaf_nul » Tue, 10 Feb 2004 04:08:14


A real Audio CD has no data tracks.


There are enhancements of the Audio CD format which are like this.


It does not have to, but it's useful if it has one. :-)


This is an "Enhanced CD": Tracks 1 to n are Audio, Tracks n+1 is data.


Gerhard
 
 
 

Burning copies of audio CDs in OSX 1.3.2?

Post by deaf_nul » Tue, 10 Feb 2004 04:08:15


Don't forget to set it to burnd discs in Disk-at-once (DAO) mode.
iTunes does not do this.


Gerhard