Solution ( Minigame compo new entries)

Solution ( Minigame compo new entries)

Post by Simo » Thu, 02 Oct 2003 03:45:31



I found a way. Hex edit the file, find the 2nd (hexa) 16161624 chain.
Add (insert) a few "16", then the 2nd program loads fine.
I suspect a little problem with the 1st part length, it's like Euphoric
reads in the TAP file more than it should for the 1st part, then misses
the 2nd part. Maybe the end address in the header of the 1st part is too
long - I didn't check in detail.

Simon
 
 
 

Solution ( Minigame compo new entries)

Post by Euphori » Fri, 03 Oct 2003 05:56:31


blcj05$2tj$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...

You're right, Simon, it has to do with the length of the first part.
With my development setup, this was working on my PC, but since this entry
was surely going to give a lot of problems to people trying it with
Euphoric, the organiser of the compo has accepted to add an extra byte
between the two parts of the tape image (this is not modifying the program
itself, just avoiding big hassle for the people trying it).
So, the file on the compo web page should now load correctly with
Euphoric... sorry for having annoyed all of you with this... I'm red... :-(

Well, I know that some of you were eager to test the oric entries, but
perhaps all you voters should wait a little before downloading all the
entries (non-Oric entries for example), because the organiser and sponsors
are now going to make one tape or disk image for each platform containing
all the entries for that platform, so that it will be easier to test all the
entries for a single platform...

Cheers to all,

Fabrice

 
 
 

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Post by peterfina » Fri, 03 Oct 2003 06:48:00

Excuse me for being a complete idiot, and being out of the country for a while,
but how did the screenshot on the minigame site get up when you can't load the
program? Many, many apologies, because you've probably all heard this a million
times before, but I really want to play Rush Hour.

Peter


"Thanks to Brian Jones for programming, printing, graphics, ethyl *** and
corn ester supplies"
Any old Oric stuff you don't want ?
 
 
 

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Post by Anders Car » Fri, 03 Oct 2003 07:58:37

"Euphoric" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > writes:


In particular when it was the sponsor/moderator's own game which
wasn't fully compatible. One would assume the sponsor checks that
every submission is loadable and within the rules... ;-)

--
Anders Carlsson

"Please not to close to the hair, finger, clothes to run about the
inside's vehicle, in order to prevent quilt involvement." -- Bit Racer
 
 
 

Solution ( Minigame compo new entries)

Post by Steve Mars » Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:30:45


"Euphoric" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote



What's line 99 all about ?

Steve M
 
 
 

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Post by TheSpid » Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:28:17

Hiya Peter,



while,
the
million

Probably because Fabrice took the screenshot himself.
This is asked for when you submit your game.
Just like I took my own screenshot, and submitted it in for my game.

The version at the minigame site ( http://www.yqcomputer.com/ ) now loads
perfectly on Euphoric. RushHour is a most excellent game. I played upto
level 10 tonight before running off to church.
--
Peter 'TheSpider' Paterson
A Scotsman in Kentucky
Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ
Homepage : http://www.yqcomputer.com/
Web-Blog : http://www.yqcomputer.com/
 
 
 

Solution ( Minigame compo new entries)

Post by TheSpid » Fri, 03 Oct 2003 10:51:13

Hiya Steve,




Just downloaded XVI32 - a freeware Hex Editor - and loaded RushHour.tap into
it.

Having a bit of trouble identifying line 99?
How many characters do you define as a line?

Want to see what you see! LOL

Did have a bit of fun and changed 'TRUCKS' in the instructions to 'LORRIES'.
*grin*
--
Peter 'TheSpider' Paterson
A Scotsman in Kentucky
Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ
Homepage : http://www.yqcomputer.com/
Web-Blog : http://www.yqcomputer.com/
 
 
 

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Post by Euphori » Fri, 03 Oct 2003 17:08:51


"Anders Carlsson" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > a rit dans le message de


Absolutely right, Anders... :-\
That's why I'm red with shame...
The worst thing is I *did* check every submission, including mine...
Unfortunately, I shouldn't have checked my own submission on my development
platform, but on a different one...

Fabrice
(going back to his punishment room)
 
 
 

Solution ( Minigame compo new entries)

Post by Euphori » Fri, 03 Oct 2003 17:24:32


9tJeb.1789$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM ...

It's the advertising string, promoting the use of our 8-bit micros, in
reverse video characters, so the LIST command see them as BASIC tokens...
 
 
 

Solution ( Minigame compo new entries)

Post by Euphori » Fri, 03 Oct 2003 17:48:46

"Peter (TheSpider)" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > a rit dans le message

into

Each Basic line costs more space than a single ':' separator, so you end up
with quite long lines...
(what prevents you from building a one-line program is the buggy 'IF'
statement, and space you can save by using subroutines)
As a result, this 2.5 KB Basic program only has 30 lines, but it is not very
readable ;-)

Cheers,

Fabrice
 
 
 

Solution ( Minigame compo new entries)

Post by TheSpid » Fri, 03 Oct 2003 20:31:32

Hiya Fabrice,





up
very

*grin* - I was viewing the program in the Hex editor, thinking it was a
machine code program!!!! That's why I was confused by Steve's question of a
line number!

And yeah, I also have found IF to be very buggy :)
--
Peter 'TheSpider' Paterson
A Scotsman in Kentucky
Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ
Homepage : http://www.yqcomputer.com/
Web-Blog : http://www.yqcomputer.com/
 
 
 

Solution ( Minigame compo new entries)

Post by TheSpid » Sat, 04 Oct 2003 07:56:43

Hiya Fabrice,



up
very

*grin* - you just let me know something that I did not know!
To test this I created a text file in notepad, and entered this into it :

100 PRINT"Basic program of one line to test just how long I can enter a
basic line into Oric since normally the internal editor cuts off at 78
characters. I am sure this line is longer than that!":PRINT"Peter
(TheSpider)"

Saved it as 'linelength.txt'
Using txt2bas (most excellent tool - along with bas2txt), I created
'linelength.bas'
CLOADed it, and found it to be true!!!
Thanks my friend. This helps a lot.

I really did think that BASIC lines were limited by what the Oric editor
could hold. Obviously not.

Peter 'TheSpider' Paterson
A Scotsman in Kentucky
Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ
Homepage : http://www.yqcomputer.com/
Web-Blog : http://www.yqcomputer.com/
 
 
 

Solution ( Minigame compo new entries)

Post by TheSpid » Sat, 04 Oct 2003 11:12:27

Hiya Fabrice,




As does bas2txt.
--
Peter 'TheSpider' Paterson
A Scotsman in Kentucky
Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ
Homepage : http://www.yqcomputer.com/
Web-Blog : http://www.yqcomputer.com/